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• Husker Du's "Zen Arcade" still lingers as the one of the greatest pieces of art from the vapid decade of the 1980s.

  And Naked Raygun's "Throb Throb" is also up there as one of the great punk rock long-players of it's day.

  Love your mag and cheers!

  Bzzy Fitzgerald - Columbus, Ohio, USA

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• For me The Dead Kennedys took some beating, total full on commitment - Give Me Convenience Give Me Death is a good place to start....and they put the likes of Green Day into perspective too.

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• Well...it's difficult to peak just one....but D.R.I's Crossover i really can't forgot..."Five year plan" got everything in hardcore-punk, the riffs, the velocity...you know

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• Well...it's difficult to peak just one....but D.R.I's Crossover i really can't forgot..."Five year plan" got everything in hardcore-punk, the riffs, the velocity...you know

  Aldo Benincasa
  Santiago
  Chile

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• Well...it's difficult to peak just one....but D.R.I's "Crossover" i really can't forgot...the song "Five year plan" got everything in hardcore-punk, the riffs, the velocity...you know

  Bye and thanks!

  Aldo
  Santiago
  Chile

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• sorry for the mess

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• #1 HAS to be Black Flag's 'Damaged' (though I prefer 'My War'). No other album is so emblematic of the entire Hardcore movement. The speed, the rage, the self-depreciating humour, the D.I.Y. ethos: no other 80s album encapsulates a time and place so purely.
  But my personal fav is Minor Threat's first EP. For sheer visceral power and moral integrity, it remains the yardstick by which pretenders are judged and found wanting.
  If we're going beyond the 80s, then Fugazi's 'Repeater' has to be considered a milestone. If we wantto go all the way to the present day, then Fucked Up's 'Chemistry Of Common Life' should be considered the modern standard barer.

  Posted by Conor at 2:47 PM GMT 27/02/2009 Report Abuse

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• Double Nickels on The Dime is the Minutemen's masterpiece, but if we're talking hardcore I'd pick The Punch Line.

  Sentimental favorite: Dehumanization by Crucifix (my late girlfriend produced it) but sentimentality aside, imagine a combination of the Germs, Motorhead and Crass fronted by a Cambodian-American teenager telling tales of the immigrant experience.

  These People by the Dicks
  Minor Threat of course (their complete works fit on one CD)
  Bad Brains- ROIR Sessions
  Zen Arcade is the bridge between "hardcore" Husker Du and arty indie-rock Husker Du and the best in both fields.

  Here's a wild card: hardcore is considered American but the Subhumans (UK, not Canada) and their second album From The Cradle To The Grave deserves a mention. Anger, humor, speed, power, and impeccable production courtesy of the late great John Loder.

  Posted by J Neo Marvin at 6:14 AM GMT 28/02/2009 Report Abuse

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• Two more words:

  Generic Flipper.

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• Trust Mojo to come-up with this killer blog topic!

  In the late 80’s I was Programme Director & Music Director at an alternative radio station in New Zealand, plus a radio show host - So my opinions are partly from an industry stand-point, what people requested, what was popular on play list, & partly, from the albums I personally wore out between 81-91.

  The people I knew who were fans of the 1st wave of Punk, mostly went-on-to buying & supporting music from the artists that you mentioned above. Aside from the ‘die-hard’ Punk fans - There was a new breed of Punk Rock supporter during this 80’s ‘transition‘. Skateboard culture was big during the 80’s. The popularity of skate culture during that time attracted a wave of new, & younger fans to hard-edged music. Skaters identified closely with the music of bands such as the Subhuman’s, DOA, & Minor Threat. Skaters were under the impression that this music made them skate ramps & bowls harder, gave them more courage, & from my observations throughout New Zealand & Los Angeles during those years, it really did!

  My album Picks would be:

  1982: Fear - ‘The Record’ - Fear were an important band - Awesome example of this era at the ’top of it’s game’ - with tracks such as: ‘Lets have a War’, ‘I don’t care about you’, ‘I love Livin in the City’, & ‘New Yorks alright if you like Saxophones’.

  1981: ‘Let Them Eat Jellybeans’ - Alternative Tentacles sampler which was a’ safe buy‘ & a good intro - 17 Killer tracks including: Black Flag, Bad Brains (Pay To Cum), DK’s, & Circle Jerks.

  1984: Black Flag - ‘Slip it In’ - Title track of this album (featuring a live version of S.I.I) was always high rotate for its sheer power & shock value.

  1985: Husker Du - ’New Day Rising’ - Pure genius from Bob Mould, bringing a slightly more poppy vibe, but with unquestionable Punk attitude all the same.

  1987: Dead Kennedy’s - ‘Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death’ - My opinion the best DK’s album - Mostly live - Featuring tracks such as ‘Police Truck’, & awesome versions of: Too Drunk to Fuck, California Über Alles, Holiday in Cambodia & I fought the Law.

  ‘Bad Brains’ do many styles particularly well - 1986 ‘I Against I’ album is more of a ‘hard-edged-rock‘ moment. To me ‘I Against I’ is like 2 shots of ‘Jagermeister’. Can’t go past tracks such as: ‘Re-Ignition‘, Hired Gun &‘Return To Heaven’.
  
  

  Posted by Dom at 4:20 AM GMT 01/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Bad Religion is essential, the longest running and most successful original US hardcore band. How Could Hell Be Any Worse was the original. Suffer was the album that reignited the whole thing which eventually led to the whole punk revival thing that peaked in the nineties.
  They're still going strong with their last 3 albums, sounding fresher and more with the times than many younger bands in the same genre.

  Posted by Anonymous at 10:49 AM GMT 01/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death or Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables would get my vote for best Hardcore album.

  Posted by The Monkey at 10:11 PM GMT 01/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• To me Black Flag's "Damaged" encapsulates the whole experience of US Hardcore. It's not my favourite, that would be DK's "Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables", but when I think of US punk, this is the one that springs to mind.

  Tracks like Rise Above and Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie grab you by the collar and scream sweet nothings in your ear!

  It made my ears bleed the first time I heard it, and it does the same now ... but in a good way.

  Rob - Thailand

  Posted by Rob at 10:57 AM GMT 02/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Minor Threat's "Out Of Step" is not only classic, but still sounds fresh, abrasive, and potent today. It's amazing that this record that I loved when I was 11 years old still thrills me at 32. The playing is just ferocious... the riffs, the songs...This music makes the Sex Pistols and the Clash sound tame and safe.

  Posted by 5 cent squid at 10:45 PM GMT 02/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• As someone who was in high school in the 80's and had some involvement with the hardcore scene (never fully succumbed to the ethic, just loved the music), I find it interesting to see these retrospectives focusing on the seminal albums of the movement. It is amusing to see what bands are emphasized in the obligatory "best" lists. While bands like Minor Threat have a legend matching that of their esteem of their time, it's important to note that many people who were part of the scene pledged a great deal of allegiance to acts respective to their obscurity, locality, and ultimately, perceived authenticity.

  Typically, you're going to see all the raves about bands like Black Flag (BTW, I always felt they were terribly overrated), and Bad Brains (definitely deserving of praise, but it was certainly not apparent at the time that they would one day be considered one of the preultimate hardcore acts). More often than not, you were going to find that these skate-punks, skinheads, etc. were going to wearing shirts or sketching the names of acts whose names are not often currently mentioned. Some had extensive reputations such as GBH, The Exploited, or D.R.I.; many could have been some less-than-garage-ready unit from another town, or even from your own school. The only crime you could probaby commit was actually getting played on some nationally recognized broadcast such as MTV. Case in point...Suicidal Tendencies. God forbid you admitted to liking them (unless you were from Venice, CA), you would be branded a "poseur". Hell, you could get the "poseur" label if you simply couldn't make it to "THE SHOW" that weekend, didn't wear the right clothing (impressive band shirt & combat boots) or professed to liking something...not hardcore.

  It's probably hard to understand completely unless you were there. Yet, I think we're probably a little blessed in retropect in that we can simply look back and enjoy the music, for music's sake. The truth is, many of these albums you're reading about here from acts like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, the Minutemen are probably some of the first you really should check out in terms of sheer originality and quality. Loved Husker Du, but unlike some people, I preferred the mid-to-late period stuff that showed greater songwriting and musical chops (Warehouse: Songs & Stories ruled 1987 for me).

  And sorry, I LOVED the first Suicidal Tendencies album. Still posing over twenty years later, I suppose?

  Posted by ZManParty at 11:03 PM GMT 02/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Well, quite a task, I'll say! To narrow such a big "thing" as the US Hardcore scene down to but 10 albums.
  
  Where to start? And - God forbid - Who deserves to be mentioned the most? Oh my, oh my...

  Minor Threat, The DKs, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Husker Du, and what not. With all of these groups and some of their best albums, and you're not far off and from the truth, probably. With them you'll get a great list!

  But the "funky"/funny side of it all is - at least for me - that this genre and this scene is so rich and exciting, that there are always new, good things to discover along the way.
  And me, I'm just a noob who "wasn't there" - "sorry-ly".

  I'm not the one who will "get smart" and say what is the best, but there is an important factor about this US Hardcore, which is, that it all was very underground and very area-based, as far as I've understood.
  Which makes it all the harder to narrow down.

  Ok, I'll spit some out and shut up then ;)

  
  In no particular order, place yourselves:

  Minor Threat - Out of step
  Dead Kennedys - Fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
  Germs - (G.I.)
  Misfits - choose one
  Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
  Hüsker Dü - choose one
  Big Black - Songs About Fucking
  Black Flag - Rise Above
  Faith/Void - Faith/Void
  MDC - Millions of Dead Cops
  Fang - Landshark/Where the Wild Thing (!!)
  Fear - The Record
  Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
  T.S.O.L. - choose one
  Flipper - Generic
  The Circle Jerks - choose one
  7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together (!!)
  Gang Green - Another Wasted Night
  The Adolescents - The Adolescents

  Oh man, that's over 10.
  Cheers and good luck!

  Long live hardcore!

  
  

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• That'll be 'Landshark/Where the Wild Things Are' for my post on the two Fang classics squeezed together...!

  Sorry ;)

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• There's always that one album you remember 'after the fact', when you're sitting at a stop-light - & you're just like 'DAMN!How could I have left that one out!!?" (The story of my life!)

  1988 - The Rapeman - 'Two Nuns & A Pack Mule' Featuring Steve Albini of Big Black fame.
  Smoking tunes include an arse-kickin' version of 'Just Got Paid' - by ZZ-Top.
  'Steak & Black Onions'
  'Trouser Minnow'
  'Kim Gordons Panties'

  This whole album if played loud will pretty-much rip you a new a***hol*!

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• Top 10 most important US hardcore records from the 1980s as follows:

  Die Kreuzen 1st s/t Touch and Go Records 1984
  This record broke the mould of the genre, it still sounds totally original and ground breaking 25 years on.

  Septic Death Need So Much Attention/Acceptance of Whom 12" Pusmort 1984
  A whirlwind of nightmare soaked hardcore punk thrash - totally devastating!

  Articles of Faith Give Thanks LP Reflex Records 1984
  Combines melody, raw power and lyrical anger to perfection.

  Adolescents S/T LP Frontier 1981
  LA HC combines top quality tunes with the jaded frustration of bored suburban youth
  kicking out at a society too perfect to survive.

  Toxic Reasons Kill By Remote Control LP Alternative Tentacles 1984
  Clash style melodies combine with the energy and vitriol inspired by the impact of Reaganomics on ordinary American kids,
  the soundtrack to a society being torn apart.

  Black Flag Damaged LP SST 1981
  This is going to make everyone's top 10
  but you can't talk about a genre without ignoring one of its most defining moments.

  Effigies Forever Grounded LP Enigma 1984
  Think USHC was just a blur of power chords and political sloganeering? Bands like the Effigies brought so much more to the genre as demonstrated here on their best album.

  Jerrys Kids Is This My World? XClaim 1983
  Hands down one of the top 3 USHC lps ever, intense raging hardcore power.

  The Freeze Land Of The Lost LP Modern Method 1984
  Outcasts from the Boston scene these Cape Cod mavericks brought humour, and cynical smarts to a conform or don't fit in scene.

  Rites Of Spring S/T LP Dischord 1985
  Want to know what REAL EMOtional HarDCore should sound like? Intense, passionate personal. Forget all the horrible commercial mainstream rock bands and their psuedo punk posturings this is the real deal.

  Posted by Punk Andy at 9:58 PM GMT 04/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime. Not only a milestone in American punk but one of the greatest rock records ever made period.
  Big Black - Atomizer. Brutal, intense and controversial. Properly introduced the world to Steve Albini, one of the most important figures in rock music in the last 25 years.
  Husker Du - Zen Arcade. Stretched the limits of the genre.
  Minor Threat - Complete Discography. Defined the movement.
  Black Flag - Damaged. Powerful and angry. Still stands the test of time.

  Posted by Mark at 8:23 PM GMT 06/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• As a yank, and as someone who went to a lot of hardcore shows, I think the ten best records in this genre go in this order.

  1. Bad Brains- Bad Brains- Their first record, and a tape only album at the time of it's release, this is the album that gave fans the blueprint. Subsequent bands like Minor Threat would not have existed without this album.
  2. Husker Du- Zen Arcade- An album that extended the possibilities of the genre.
  3. Minor Threat - Complete Discography- Politics, and near fascist attitudes aside, they were an incredible band.
  4. X - Los Angeles- An album that brings women into the boys club of hardcore.
  5. The Big Boys - The Fat Elvis: Compilation of the Austin band that married the DK's to Parliament.
  6. The Minutemen- Double Nickles On The Dime- The one hardcore record I never get tired of. There is always something new to derive from it.
  7. Fear- The Record: Brilliant first full release that was able to harness the anger and energy that made for the best hardcore.
  8. Black Flag- Rise Above- Maybe the album that started it all?
  9. Descendents- Milo Goes to College- The first of the truly juvenile records to reach the entire country. Bill Stevenson's drumming is impeccable.
  10. Fucked Up- Chemistry of Common Life- New entrant, and technically not from the U.S., but here is a band that has successfully reinvigorated a genre that I thought had been truly beaten to death twenty years before.
  

  Posted by robmo35 at 10:34 PM GMT 09/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Since I grew up in SoCal in the 1980s and was a part of this scene, I finally feel like I can contribute to one of these Mojo "How-to-Buys"!

  While many people have listed a lot of great bands/albums so far, I don't know if all of them would really be considered hardcore in technical terms. So I am using the term "hardcore" in a rather precise fashion here. In order to focus on its historical apex, I have also kept myself confined to the period 79-85 (so apologies to Christ on Parade, Agnostic Front, Corrosion of Conformity, Youth of Today, Sick of it All, Econochrist, the Cro-Mags, etc. who are all worthy of a mention).

  1. Black Flag-- "The First Four Years." Everyone is going to mention "Damaged," and rightly so. But this is really where it all begins and even Rollins prefers it to anything he did with the band. There is no better place to start.

  2. Bad Brains-- "The ROIR Sessions." For my money, easily the best hardcore band of all time.

  3. Minor Threat-- "Complete Discography." Thus completing the hardcore holy trinity.

  4. The Minutemen-- "What Makes a Man Start Fires?" Everyone is going to list "Double Nickels"-- and since that is one of the best 2-3 albums ever recorded in my opinion, I can see why-- the earlier work of the Minutemen doesn't always get as much praise as it deserves. This album is more closely connected to the particular aesthetics of hardcore, and it is severely underrated simply because of the work they released later.

  5. Faith/Void-- s/t. Even though they didn't release much, one side of a record by Void is of more value than the entire Dead Kennedys discography. If they only had released more records, they could have been up there with the Black Flags and the Minor Threats. And Faith were worth a listen as well...

  6. Circle Jerks-- "Group Sex." There was a more humorous/lurid vein in hardcore as well, and it can be traced back to this album. Although they look silly compared to some of the bands listed above, this was their deserved fifteen minutes of fame-- quite literally.

  7. Husker Du-- "Zen Arcade." Hardcore goes all Quadrophenia like (which isn't necessarily a completely good thing). It's still pretty great, though-- and none of their releases after this one can properly be called "hardcore."

  8. Negative Approach-- "Total Recall." One of the scariest, most intense bands of any kind ever. This one will bludgeon you over the head in a good way.

  9. The Descendents-- "Milo Goes to College." Out of all the bands from the South Bay/Orange County that brought in poppier elements to hardcore (i.e., Adolescents, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, T.S.O.L., Agent Orange, etc.) the Descendents get the call because the sentiments expressed on this album are the closest to the actual sentiments of the vast majority of the audience for hardcore-- alienated, angry, suburban, sexually frustrated teenage boys. I'm speaking from experience here.

  10. Born Against-- "9 Patriotic Hymns for Children/Battle Hymns of the Race War." This breaks my rule regarding the absence of bands that appeared after 1985, but Born Against, both live and on record, are one of the greatest rock bands of all time and they deserve more recognition. This CD includes both of the albums they released.

  Since the category is "U.S. Hardcore," here is an indispensable Canadian bonus:
  D.O.A.-- "Hardcore '81." This album-- and band-- is just as crucial to the history of hardcore as any other, but have sort of have been underestimated in the historicization of this moment in rock history. Being from just over the border-- in this case, Vancouver-- shouldn't keep them off the list.

  Finally, compilation albums have more importance in the history of hardcore than they do in other genres since most bands released very little and recording/distribution possibilities were limited. These compilations proved to be essential snapshots of the geographical specificity of different hardcore scenes around the country and were often the source of a given bands importance. Here are five indispensable compilations, all from the annus mirabelis of 1982:

  "Flex Your Head" (Dischord). The Washington, D.C. scene-- and maybe the best compilation out of all of these.

  "New York Thrash" (ROIR). I always thought NYC hardcore was either stupidly silly or unintentionally silly, but it had its moments. Pretty much all of them are here.

  "Not So Quiet on the Western Front" (Alternative Tentacles).
  The Bay Area and beyond-- includes Crucifix (!), cited by someone else above.

  "Someone Got Their Head Kicked In! (Better Youth Organization). The second generation Southern Cal scene-- and a sentimental favorite for me, as it was the first hardcore album I ever bought.

  "This is Boston Not L.A." (Modern Method). All of the Boston hardcore you will ever need; it makes Minor Threat and the D.C. straight edge scene sound like decadent hippies...

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• Off the top of my head:
  7 Seconds – The Crew
  Youth Brigade - Sound and Fury
  Black Flag – Everything Went Black (I am a Henry Rollins man but his predecessors deserve a massive credit)
  Dead Kennedys – Plastic Surgery Disasters
  Circle Jerks – Group Sex
  Bad Brains – Rock For Light
  Descendents - Milo Goes To College
  GG Allin – Always Was, Is and Always Shall Be
  Minor Threat – Out of Step
  MDC - Millions of Dead Cops

  Posted by HP at 12:47 PM GMT 11/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• Bad Brains Roir tape for me. That a band could play that fast and still make sense was ridiculous.
  Husker Du's New Day Rising, wonderfully tuneful and a big surprise.
  Minor Threat - Out of Step. Not many bands can start a life style.
  Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime - new things every time you listen to it.
  Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician. Best live band I have ever seen.
  Shelter - Mantra
  Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
  Gorilla Biscuits, Youth of Today, Bad Religion should be in there somewhere.
  Look forward to seeing the list.

  Posted by Ken Wilson at 1:36 PM GMT 16/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• I'm good with the Black Flag, DK, Minor Threat, etc.., but a 7" that seems to be overlooked quite often is Poison Ideas "Pick your King."

  Posted by Anonymous at 5:22 PM GMT 17/03/2009 Report Abuse

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• I´d go for FLIPPER "Generic Album", BLACK FLAG "Damaged",MDC´s first,SCREAM "Still Screamin´" and-
  my fave compilation because it blew me away by it´s sheer power and diversity-"NOT SO QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT" .
  Michel Toenges - Mülheim an der Ruhr, Germany

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• Germs (GI) - technical the Germs and this album maybe should be considered something like proto-hardcore, but it´s one of the greatest records of all time, regardless of genre.
  

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• Why has nobody mentioned Poison Idea?

  My favourite is "Feel the Darkness" combining complete hardcore commitment with some classic rock chops, if "just to get away" doesn't make you want leave town with the smell of burnt bridges behind you then then you might as well be dead.

  Or what about Discharge?

  "Hear nothing..." practicaly defines the genre, cold thrasing guitars, tangible anxiety about 'the bomb' and album art design that echoes through the ages.

  Oh yeah

  Andrew,
  Melbourne

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• RE: Andrew

  Oops Discharge are UK.

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• 
  Agnostic Front: Victim in Pain
  Adrenalin O.D.: Wacky Hi Jinks
  Bad Brains: The Roir Cassette
  Cro-Mags: Age of Quarrel
  7-Seconds: The Crew

  The following comps are ESSENTIAL to american hardcore:
  Maximum Rock and Roll's Not So Quiet on the Western Front.
  P.E.A.C.E.
  The Master Tape Vol. 1 and 2
  Let Them Eat Jellybeans
  
  I'm really nervous about some of what was posted below. So many of the people here don't really understand this music at all. I should write it.
  

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• Can we just drop the 'Give Me Conveniennce...' suggestions please?
  It's a 'Best Of...' that managed to avoid being so.
  Yeah, it's got (some of) the singles on it, but also a load of dodgy filler.
  'In God We Trust' wipes the floor with it. Every track, pure gold - Rawhide included!

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• RE: J Neo Marvin
  I had that Crucifix LP but either lost or sold it some years ago and I can't find another one anywhere (no, I don't want it on CD!)
  I am Artie Fufkin, please kick my ass, please

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